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    Quote Originally Posted by Bee777 View Post
    Good night DOM
    I'll check in the morning for your answers.

    Blessings
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    Sleep well.

    We wil speak again in the morning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bee777 View Post
    By the way, if the blood sacrifice for forgiveness of sin, sin being the transgression of the law,
    was given by Satan then...................... was the law also given by Satan ?

    As they go hand in hand and given by the same person, be it Jesus ( Lord God)or Satan.
    So what is you opinion on that law than ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Die Ou Man View Post
    Yes it is a lie. Jesus forgave numerous people on earth from their sins, without having to be murdered.

    Liefde groete.

    Die Ou Man
    Hi DOM
    I prayed and asked the Holy Spirit for an answer to this statement in Jesus's words as it seems that is the only reference you will accept.

    I opened to this following passage in my Bible.

    Mathew 16;21
    From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples, how that he must go
    unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes,
    and be killed, and be raised again the third day.

    16:22 Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord:
    this shall not be unto thee.

    16:23 But he turned, and said unto Peter,Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art
    an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those
    that be of men.
    Peter is saying what you are saying DOM, Jesus was not supposed to die on the cross for our sins. Jesus rebuked him and called him SATAN, and told him he speaks from men and not from GOD.

    Yes, there may have been a conspiracy to kill Jesus but it was all in God's plan all along, Jesus knew the cup He had to drink from when He came here, He knew He had to pay the ultimate blood sacrifice for remission of sins. Therefore there was an animal blood sacrifice required in the OT which Jesus replaced.

    DOM, case closed, those are the words of Jesus, and that would be His personal response to you.
    If you still negate this then I know I am speaking to a man that has a deceiving spirit. I pray it is not so.

    Blessings
    Bee777
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    Mathew 16;21

    From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples, how that he must go
    unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes,
    and be killed, and be raised again the third day.


    16:22 Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord:
    this shall not be unto thee.

    16:23 But he turned, and said unto Peter,Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art
    an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those
    that be of men.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bee777 View Post

    Peter is saying what you are saying DOM, Jesus was not supposed to die on the cross for our sins.

    Blessings
    Bee777
    No Bee777, Peter said nothing about Jesus dying for anybody's sins. Neither did Jesus.

    You read into the passage, that which is not written.

    Jesus said that he would be killed by the elders and chief priests and scribes and be raised from the dead after three days.

    Peter said that it would not happen and therefore Jesus scolded him.

    Originally Posted by Bee777

    He knew He had to pay the ultimate blood sacrifice for remission of sins.
    Bee777, this is your own words. What you are saying about Jesus as a blood sacrifice is not even remotely suggested in the passage.

    Originally Posted by Bee777

    DOM, case closed, those are the words of Jesus.
    I have read the words of Jesus, and it does not reflect what you are saying.

    Read through the passage again. But first put aside all your dogmatic views.

    The case is not closed.

    Liefde groete.

    Die Ou Man

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bee777 View Post
    Hi DOM
    I prayed and asked the Holy Spirit for an answer to this statement in Jesus's words as it seems that is the only reference you will accept.

    Blessings
    Bee777
    Bee777.

    You prayed for an answer and you believe that you have got the answer. That is fine.

    You then took the words of the Christ and flavoured it with your own dogmatic views, giving a whole new meaning. That is a dangerous game.

    My advice to you. Simply pray for the truth to be revealed to you. And when the truth is revealed, do not resist it or twist it.

    Originally Posted by Bee777

    If you still negate this then I know I am speaking to a man that has a deceiving spirit. I pray it is not so.
    I accept what Jesus is saying.

    I negate what you are saying because you are saying something else. If that in your view makes me "a man that has a deceiving spirit". So be it.

    Bee777, we have been discussing the Bible for a number of days. I can assure you that you are not in a position to claim to know an eternal truth.

    Be careful not to judge in ignorance.

    Liefde groete.

    Die Ou Man

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    Quote Originally Posted by Die Ou Man View Post
    Bee777.


    Bee777, we have been discussing the Bible for a number of days. I can assure you that you are not in a position to claim to know an eternal truth.

    Be careful not to judge in ignorance.

    Liefde groete.

    Die Ou Man
    Oh DOM
    I prayed for an answer and received it, I reread it many times and then asked a friend to tell me what the passage tells them without telling them what I thought.
    Their view was the same, thus I received confirmation, and so i posted it.

    I have never been in a church environment so i have no dogmatic views.
    These are through reading, praying and researching.

    Stop putting words in my mouth, i never claimed " To know eternal truth" I can just see what is in front of me. I also do not judge you but I am well aware of what happens in the Spiritual realm as this has been revealed to me.

    Just for interest sake, what part of the Bible do you believe in ?

    Blessings
    Bee777

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    Quote Originally Posted by Die Ou Man View Post
    The Son of Man was sent to show us the way to eternal life.



    How do we acquire eternal life? By murdering the Son of Man that was sent to teach us about eternal life? Certainly not.



    Eternal life is within our grasp without having to murder the Son of Man.

    Liefde groete.

    Die Ou Man
    Here is a quote from Jesus where He says that no ones takes His life, He gives it freely, so then it wasn't murder.

    10:17
    Therefore * * doth my Father love me, because I lay down my life, that I might take it again.

    10:18
    No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.
    Blessings
    Bee777

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    Hi DOM

    Another scripture from Jesus's mouth.

    Mt 26:28
    For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
    Now if that doesn't say what it says as straight forward as it is then i really don't know.

    Blessings
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bee777 View Post
    Hi DOM

    Another scripture from Jesus's mouth.

    Mt 26:28
    For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
    Now if that doesn't say what it says as straight forward as it is then i really don't know.

    Blessings
    Bee777
    Bee777.

    You never fail to put a smile to my face.

    It is not just about the blood of the Christ. It is also about his body.

    26 And as they were eating, Jesus took bread, and blessed it, and brake it, and gave it to the disciples, and said, Take, eat; this is my body.

    27 And he took the cup, and gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, Drink ye all of it; 28 For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
    Surely this passage should be regarded as symbolic. Wine symbolises the blood of the Christ and bread symbolises his body.

    I want to introduce you to the following passage.

    Whoso eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, hath eternal life; and I will raise him up at the last day.

    For my flesh is meat indeed, and my blood is drink indeed.

    He that eateth my flesh, and drinketh my blood, dwelleth in me, and I in him.
    You would agree that this passage should also be regarded as symbolic. Surely the Christ did not advocate cannibalism.

    I want you to study the teachings of the Christ and tell me what He meant by his body/flesh (bread) and what he meant by his blood (wine).

    Liefde groete.

    Die Ou Man

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    Happy to be able to make you smile

    Yes I do agree the wine and blood is symbolic, I also see the bread.

    Will do a study in the week.

    Do you want to open another thread so we can discuss the 375 day flood and not the 40 day flood as everyone thinks ?

    Catch you later
    Blessings
    Bee777

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